We are #teamTIGHTWAD, and this day we found joy spending on...
- Swimming lesson.
- Tap dancing lessons for the month.
- Choi Kwang Do martial arts belt grading fee x2 to enter for Gold Belt Senior.
- Ebay: Toy yellow bus for my nephew (He's obsessed with buses, like I was at his age. So I like encouraging this.)
Red red red red red red red.
So welcome to episode 4 of the TightwadDad Podcast with me, Neil, and Joe.
And we're here in the happy hut and it's freezing, isn't it!
Yeah, it's cold.
It's pretty cold, you've got a cold.
I don't like this red I'm surrounded in it.
You don't like the colour red?
They might think that I love the colour red just because my headphones are red.
The covers are red here, and the sofas are red. I think blue’s my favorite colour.
Which is what you're wearing.
Yes I think it cheers up the Happy Hut, so I'm sorry if--
I think of it as blood and death.
I've got a question, but I've left it on the computer so I'm gonna have to - do you wanna just talk while...
In episode 3, “Earning money on YouTube how to” - so you could try and get a thousand subscribers - that's what Dad says.
Yeah we're on 320 at the moment, so we've got another 680 - we've got to do that 2 more times to get close to a 1000.
I remember, the question I should've asked last time I got it wrong
“What should we be spending less money on?”
Food.
Food?
We do spend a lot of money on food.
I think we should buy stuff that would last longer for cheaper.
Do you think we should eat less?
Wouldn't you be really hungry?
We would, we would.
I'm one very hungry child.
And I'm one hungry dad as well so that's the problem, but we should spend less money in the supermarket.
And buy more stuff for less money.
No. It'd be like buy as least as possible for at least amount of money so find a better
bread. You use a lot of bread.
I do.
You do.
Okay, so if we had less bread and spend the money on other stuff?
Dad?
And then we can eat the same--
I just wondered this. You’re kind of obsessed with yellow.
Your hut is kind of yellow--
It is.
Your paper that you write on is yellow.
It is.
And then your bread is yellow.
I do like yellow.
But I thought you love blue as well.
Do you know what, the one I like the most is pinkl
I got pink phone. I've got pink trainers
Oh yeah! (Sniggers) Pink phone.
And I dyed my Choi Kwang Do dobok, I've put it in the washed with the red jacket and it came out pink.
[laughs]
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Okay it's episode 3 of tightwad dad podcast.
With me Neil and Joe.
So hi thanks for joining us - Joe you were just saying these podcasts are very short.
Yes.
But Mummy read that micro-podcasts are gonna be the thing, so maybe this is a good thing.
Yeah.
And I did want to mention - you didn't want to talk about it.
Sorry, I've got your headphone lead wrapped round.
I've got a cold.
You've got a cold, so that's why you sound a bit...
Runny.
I can't remember what my next question was.
Do you want to blow your nose while I look up the next question?
Oh yeah, I know the question: do you think I spend too much money?
I think you spend a decent amount money Just the right amount?
Yeah not too much not too less.
If I feel like we haven't got enough money, it's either because I'm not earning enough. Or because we're spending too much.
Or maybe you should not spend anything and be proud of what you've already got
That's a good idea.
Cos some people don't have anything.
That's a really really good idea.
Oh the making money thing in Episode two I whispered:
“Looking under the... and another way I know this would look weird but I have earned about £50 by doing this altogether, by looking under vending machines or coin machines....
Anything that would involve coins which have a gap underneath they are coins like Coinstars, look under claw machines - especially in arcades you get quite a bit.
Don't you remember?
No!
Ugh, bad memory.
It's cause I'm getting old.
What I thought you were gonna say...
You're not old...
...was looking under sofa cushions.
Oh yeah, in the cracks because when like heavy people sit down if they've got a lot of change in their pocket it would just fall out into the cracks.
I found - remember in that Southsea place I found like £2.50 in different couches or
sofas.
So that's the end of - is this episode 3?
Yes
Thanks for watching.
Can't remember...
You've got a bad memory...
If you've got this far into the video we'd love it if you gave us a thumbs up - if you
got this far.
And make sure you subscribe because I think it would be nice.
It'd really help us.
Because when we hit 1000 subscribers, we start getting money from YouTube.
Hey, that could be our next podcast.
What, how to get money from YouTube?
Yeah.
Okay.
Make thousand gaming channels... I think I've said too much
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My broken toe is getting me down.
I never feel like I'm pulling in enough money for my family, and I'm also injured.
Hobbling round the town, not providing.
I have completely emasculated myself.
So this is where the fight begins.
This is where we push back, against our dependency on money for happiness.
This is the start of FAMILIES AGAINST MONEY.
Who's with me?
First, I've got to start thinking of others.
I'll make an unboxing video for waterproof shoes for people with broken toes.
To help them be happy with spending their money.
That might get me some followers to join me on this long long journey (of one month, sharing what we're spending).
And then... then I'll work out what the next aim is.
I am a Tightwad Dad, and I’m scared I will be judged for sharing this, but this day we spent:
- £6.05 in the local German supermarket chain for a loaf of bread.
(Ended up with ham, calamari and Frankfurters too while bored waiting for...)
- £152.06 proper supermarket delivery.
- £7.49 Kindle book.
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+ £25 Premium Bonds win (me).
+ £25 Premium Bonds win (Long-Suffering Wife).
- £1 Tooth Fairy.
I think we could've done better.
Well we'll do better... this'll be a better podcast, okay...
Hello welcome to the Tightwad Dad podcast, episode 2, I'm Neil.
This is my son.
Hello.
See I don't know if I should even mention your name.
But I might as well because I know that it's gonna come out.
Because everyone's gonna think who's that...
Yeah.
There'll be like loads of comments saying who's him.
So do you want to introduce yourself? yes hi I'm Joe and I'm Neil's son.
Right so this is the Tightwad Dad podcast, in episode 1 I explained what a tightwad is.
And you think I am a tightwad - you'd say I am a tightwad.
So thank you that's good Good.
So my question is do you think I talk too much about our money
yeah you want more because you know you think you're not earning enough, you'll get better job
Can you think of more ways I can earn money?
Or that we can earn money, as a family!
well you know that system - the 50p system
if we did that Do you want to explain that?
We're on holiday and we got these special 50-pieces and we thought like we should collect these from the bank so we go to the bank get some and then would sell the doubles on eBay and if we did that enough a year we'll probably get two hundred pounds a year living it
- that isn't gonna happen sorry No, sorry, I interrupted you.
So the idea is we could take - it's not just any 50ps, it's the ones that look nice.
yeah like Paddington, Peter Rabbit, Johnson's dictionary
And then you can sell them on ebay for more than 50p.
yeah so that's like one pound fifty which is like three times the amount that it cost in the first place yeah it's supposed to cost but it's special that's got different picture on should we try that idea first - selling the 50ps yeah and you know third episode we should talk about - I'm not gonna say now but we should talk about you know - the looking under
- yeah no - yeah that one.
Oh, that's a tease.
Alright so you want to do that on the next podcast?
Yes.
Okay I'm glad we had this chat.
yeah over a lot of people yeah
Like if they listen to it a lot.
Yeah, what, so how should we end the podcast we should say if you've got this far why not subscribe and leave a like
Oh that's a nice idea.
And please leave a comment if you wanted to know more or what we should do next
Yeah, if you have any questions, or ideas that we could try to make more money.
Or we could just make stuff about what other people would want us to talk about
So thanks for watching, and we'll be back on the next episode of Tightwad Dad.
Bye!
Can you please help my daddy get 1000 subscribers just click on his face thanks bye
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How to self-publish an ebook on Amazon (or even a paperback too)
Waiting to be chosen by a gatekeeper is painful.
And being chosen by a gatekeeper only lasts as long as the gatekeeper chooses.
At the end of last year, as another experiment, I wrote some comedy routines and self-published them as a book.
Turns out it’s about as easy as publishing a podcast or youtube video.
Which means it’s very not easy in parts and comes with annoying fiddly niggles.
But it can be done without killing you.
Amazon have set up a system to publish anything as an e-book, direct from a formatted Word document.
If you go to kdp.amazon.com
and login with your regular Amazon password, there’s a dashboard for publishing books.
The hardest part for me was going through the US tax regulation menus for the payment account - but you don’t need to set this up until you’re ready to hit “publish”... and I seemed to survive it.
KDP (Kindle Direct Publishing) has Word templates for download, and also a Word plug-in, to create documents from scratch.
I use a little of both of these to create a Word document that looked like the book I would want to read.
Then, it was as easy as pasting in my manuscript, one chapter at a time to not screw-up the formatting.
I completed it with text-only pastes from my draft: sometimes one paragraph at a time to get the page breaks and indentations how I wanted them to be laid out.
On the kdp dashboard, you can create your new book:
Think up a title and subtitle, description, categories and key words.
Once you’ve uploaded the Word document, there’s a built in cover-creator where you can upload pictures. The Cover Creator is clunky, stiff and mostly ugly, but easier than uploading a self-designed PDF cover.
You then set the price of the ebook.
There are different percentages and royalties, but basically you get money for every book sold, and royalties for any pages read on their Kindle unlimited schemes.
The minimum price is based on their cut, printing and postage costs, and you can affect this by number of pages, type of paper and colour options.
It seems if you already have a story, or material on video or audio, it would be “easy” to paste that into as many books as you like.
I did this for an oral history I made with my Dad, who had just retired as a London Taxi Driver. The material already existed as a series of videos I’d shot with him.
YouTube had auto-transcribed them for me. So all the “writing” involved was formatting and cleaning up typos and unclear sections.
The book is here: https://amzn.to/2PL4c5R
The next clever thing is that you can then convert that e-book into a printed-on-demand physical paperback book, which can be put on sale all over the World.
After publishing my first book - I found it much easier to format the e-book in the way I wanted the paperback to look, so I have only one Word document to amend and correct. But you can keep separate Word documents if you prefer.
This is how I published my book of comedy routines - as a writing sample. https://amzn.to/2wPJau8
Here’s a PDF so you can see how it looks.
https://tinyurl.com/WATPfreebookPDF
All just created from regular old Word.
There’s one more benefit I love.
The text is completely changeable.
You just upload a new Word document (which I love that they grandly call my “manuscript”).
It doesn’t have to be perfect first time.
I try and make it perfect, but changes always appear and can be easily fixed before the next book is printed or downloaded.
There are some more kicks for me with this:
- My Dad’s story is out there. Forever. It was only for my family, but other Taxi Drivers have bought it and thanked me for it. (Which I'd never set out to do).
- I am now automatically listed on Google as an author.
I never wanted that as a label, but it’s really cool that these pop up with my name now.
- You choose however much money you want, because you set the price of the book.
There are, obviously, loads of other places you can self-publish with different distribution models (I like the look of blurb.com too).
Anyway, putting this out there in case it helps.
Is this something you think you could do? What would you publish?
Leave me a comment if I can help with any answers.
"I’ve heard the old stories about the Eccentric Heir from some of the old timers...he used to insist that the Taxi wait at the Station; he’d be gone for days and would mark the tyres with chalk to make sure it didn’t move til he came back.
Drivers would change over the Cab and go home on the bus or train and leave the meter running!"
Plus - this is the first I'd heard of Johnny Onions in Camden Town.
(feel free to turn the speed up and whack the subtitles on...)
Ian talks about working on a London taxi radio circuit in the 1960s, account work,
1:00 Eccentric customers (including the heir to the Huntley & Palmers biscuit fortune,
3:30 the doctor who'd go to the Phene Arms pub every day of the year)
5:55 In Camden: The Good Mixer, Johnny Onions, Arlington House,
8:10 Ian's first ever fare, which you never charge for
9:00 The benefits of taxi ranks
And then account work came in, so that someone could book through the circuit. And then what, you'd get a statement at the end of the month? Back then?
Yeah. When you do a job, say Agar Grove to Euston, it was on a bit of paper. At the end of the evening, you blew in what was on the meter. We had so much work, I mean you could fill this room with the bits of paper. Of course they'd get lost and misplaced.
What and you'd take these bits of paper into the office?
No you had a book, where you'd put every job you did, and then say, once a fortnight, they'd pay up - you went to Maida Vale where the office was and they'd give you a cheque, for the work you'd done.
What were your favourite ones?
There was supposed to be - it was true, though I never did him - a Mister, I don't know if it was Mr Huntley or Mr Palmer - he was, you know going to this... he was connected to Huntley and Palmer Biscuits (yeah?) and they've just given him a few bob just to get him out of the way, because he was bit [loopy]. And there was this story that he goes into this hotel in Swiss Cottage, and they wouldn't give him a room. So he went back next day and he bought the hotel and gave all of the staff the sack! But I think that's a bit of a story.
But he used to book - take a taxi on a Friday night to go to Southend or... it was either from Charing Cross or Fenchurch Street, and you had to wait for him. And they used to change over - he used to come back, like Sunday night. But the driver would do 12 hours (waiting), and change over and another cab would do 12 hours, and another cab 12... And he used to pay it. You know you'd get paid because he had an A1 account with Coutts (Bank)!
Or he would go out jogging at 3 o'clock, no, 2 o'clock in the morning... then he would go down to Fleet Street there was an open - a cafe that was open all the time - Johnnies. And he'd used to fill a vacuum flask with mashed potato or something and eat it in the back of the cab. And then you'd take him back to the hotel.
And that was one of Huntley or Palmer?
Yes, I heard about it and it was true.
Where was Johnnies?
In Fleet Street. I used to eat there with me and my pals after the pub on a Friday night.
Because they worked at the print works? Was it those mates?
No, it was before that!
Were these other cab driver mates?
No, no, they were just fellas I knew from the pub.
I wonder what's at Johnnies now? It's probably a Tesco Express or something.
No, I think it's a McDonalds.
Oh I know it, yeah yeah.
It's just somewhere there. And we used to get a doctor - a retired doctor - who lived just over Battersea Bridge, and he used to go to the Phene Arms. Where (George) Best used to go. And he used to use it 364 days, yeah 364 days a year. And there was one day missing, it was Christmas Day and he didn't go then because the pub was shut.
And we used to call it "You-know-who-going-to-you-know-where".
What on the radio?
Yeah, because everybody knew it!
And who was it?
A retired doctor.
And what he'd just always get a cab...
Of a morning... what time would it be about... half one, and then you'd take him back at three o'clock. Then he used to go down at half seven, till closing time. And they used to do that every day of the week.
Oh my - Where did they pick him up from?
Oh I can't think of it. It was a road off of Prince Of Wales Drive.
Yeah, and he used to go to what the same pub - did you say as George Best?
Yes it was the Phene Arms, that's gone now I think... P-h-e-n-e I know where it is, I can't think of the name of the street just now. It was just over Chelsea Bridge, Battersea Bridge.
And as I say, they did it for so long that they said "You-know-who-going-to-you-know-where" and everybody knew him.
Oh and then we used to have a night dispatcher called Johnny, I can't think of his full name, erm... he used to live in another posh area, off of Cross Street, and we used to take him to Maida Vale. And he used to have a right gruff voice. And he was a little fella with a dodgy leg - and they used to say "go pick him up", "Yeah, what's he got? He's got a bowler hat... he's got an umbrella stuck on his right arm, and underneath the other arm he's got the Jewish Chronicle."
I remember you telling me that The Good Mixer (in Camden) was called The Good Mixer because... for a reason...
Yeah, there was a cement (mixer) - one of those things that made cement where you turned the wheel. And they'd come out, they did some renovations in the pub and they couldn't get this thing out! So they just left it in there!
In the basement?
Yes!
And then they called the pub, The Good Mixer?
Yeah!
When was that, can you remember?
About, this was 1966.
Oh right, because it's quite a famous pub now.
Yeah, if it's still there.
Oh, Johnny Onions.
Johnny Onions?
Yeah, that wasn't his second name, it was 'cuz it was where the cinema was, not - there used to be a Cinema in Chalk Farm Road - as you come over from Camden High Street - it might be Camden High Street - there used to be a cinema on the left, and the local fellas just used to - the stallholders - gave him a couple of sacks of onions to sell.
So Johnny Onions would just sell...
Onions! He lived in Arlington House, and he was quite happy there. I often used to drink with him and a few fellas from there and they were petrified of all these do-gooders from Camden Council wanting to give them flats. And they said, "you know, we're happy as we are... we don't have to worry about gas bills, electric bills, or anything like that. I wish they'd leave us alone!"
Because Arlington House was the house for down-and-outs wasn't it?
Yes.
They probably didn't call it that.
But they had sort of the posh bits where they had their own locker. And their own bed.
Right, and they were quite happy with that.
Yeah quite happy with it.
And can you remember when you passed your test, your taxi licence test, can you remember what your first job was?
Yes, 'cause the first job you don't charge them. Because it's supposed to be unlucky.
Oh okay, that's just like a tradition?
Yes. It was- I was on the Camden Town (cab) rank and I went to Elthorne Road.
Elthorne Road?
Yeah where Mum worked!
That was a coincidence?
Yes it is!
She worked actually in that street?
Yes.
That's weird.
Oh, just trying to think - we used to call ranks by the pubs.
Because often, another good way of calling work (over the radio), you used to call them to the nearest cab rank. So if you were on the cab rank, you automatically got the job.
Because it saved a lot of messing about and a lot of time.
What, if someone hails you at the rank, or phones?
No, they used to call the rank (over the radio). Like the George rank up in Hampstead, by the Royal Free.
What they'd have like a telephone there?
No, the fellas- you used to rank up there, and they'd say call (over the radio) the George rank to Kings Cross. And then you'd just blow in and say yeah I'm first, second or third.
And if you were a radio taxi on there you got the job.
Were there many ranks round London back then.
Yes. It just made the job easier as we got more busier and busier. Oh this is driving me nuts, the Camden Town (rank). You didn't call the Camden rank. There used to be a pub on the left hand side and its a phone shop now, well it changes every couple of months - oh I can't think of the name of it!
And what's this, this is a rank in Camden Town?
In the High Street. Where the toilets are. In the middle of the road there.
Yeah, I remember, what actually in Camden High Street?
That's it.
They're still there? It's still got a rank there?
Yes, it's got busier again. Not many people ranked up there, but now we're not so busy there's always about 3 or 4 taxis on there.
So if someone phoned in wanting to be picked up from Camden High Street, they'd just radio the rank?
No, what happens, say you wanted a cab, well to St. Paul's Crescent, they used to call like if there's a taxi on Camden Town rank and give it (the job) to them. And away you went. It was just a lot easier.
0:00 Ian talks about joining the London radio taxi circuit called Lords... the kipper season...
1:15 How you'd get a radio in your taxi from Pye
2:00 Being horrified now that he let me sit in the front on the cab
3:00 The secret panic button
4:00 How radio dispatch worked with jobs phoning in
6:00 All about ODRTS (the Owner Driver Radio Taxi Service), Lords, Dial-A-Cab...
7:50 More about the emergency button
8:55 Catching cabbies who abused the radio
- and and then so then when did you join Lords?
Was that soon after you'd passed?
No, I gave it-- oh... it's 1970... I think... it was February 1970
Was it easy to join?
Yes in those days - but it was there again it was like the kipper season.
There wasn't much work about - this is why most of the fellas didn't buy their houses because February was absolutely dead.
There's hardly any work about.
When did they call it the kipper season-- why did they call it the kipper season?
Nobody knows [LAUGHTER]
They do not know why.
Is it because you had to eat kippers during that--
I think really, that's the best-- it's all we could put on the table.
You've always said is that the first two groups in London that know what the economy is doing are the prostitutes and the taxi drivers...
Yeah, and publicans. Oh that's right, yes.
So then you joined the radio circuit, do they then put a radio in your taxi?
Yes. I think you had to pay for the fitting.
A-ha.
It was Pye - out as you go up erm, Highgate Hill, it's near your school you go underneath the bridge (oh gawd I can't remember) or if you came along Gordon House Road turn right, you've got the pub there and underneath the bridge you had mews'es. And Pye's place was there.
That's PYE, P-Y-E... They're like a radio outfit.
Yeah.
And they'd what, like wire up an antenna and...
They'd put something in your boot. You'd have a big box in your boot.
Oh what, a transmitter?
Yes. You had a big mouth piece there...
Oh that's right - it's like the McDonald's drive-through (cashiers) microphones.
And when I used to take you to school, you used to hold on to that.
And these days [thinking about it] I just come over cold, because you'd sit there holding this thing.
[Laughter]
Can you imagine doing that [today].
Because I was sat in the front?
There was a partition there. And you sat on the partition and held this thing.
Oh... you couldn't do that these days.
Mind you, things were a lot slower then. The cabs were a lot slower!
[Laughter]
I have such fond memories... yeah back in the seventies you could... well you could go anywhere in a car, so you could've been in the boot. But in the taxi you could sit in the front in the luggage compartment and I used to love that!
And yeah, like you say, so you'd have like this armrest... that I'd sit on and hold the microphone!
Hold the microphone yes.
I'd forgotten that.
Oh I haven't. [Laughter]
No, well, when I think about it these days...
Yeah I s'pose so. Oh it was fun... It was fun though, that's living a little isn't it.
So you had a radio fitted. And the other thing I remember with the radio was that, well there were two things: there was a secret button. So basically was like a proper button...
Yes.
So that if... so you were Apple 31?
Yes.
How did you get that number?
No, they just dished out anyone.
You know, you'd join the circuit, and a number was empty and they gave it to you... as someone might have left the circuit...
Right, so you were A-31.
Yes Apple 3-1.
Which is Apple 31. And then could you hear other [drivers]?
No.
Oh so you couldn't hear [others].
You could always hear the central control?
Yes.
But you couldn't hear what the other...
...drivers were saying, no.
But you'd hear their call sign? So they'd call out - I don't know - what would it be...
Charlie 22 or something?
Yes. "Black 6-5 with the pipe" or something.
"Black 6-5 with the pipe"?
Yeah. Because he's always smoking a pipe.
So he was called "Black 6-5 with the pipe"?
Well this fella was.
[Laughter]
Were there any others?
I can't remember any...
And how would that work? Would you like start the cab up, and would you let them know that you're that you were there?
No.
They'd just put out a general call?
Yeah. But they would say, like, "Agar Grove going to Kings Cross."
And you had a call - an open call, first call...
If you were so many yards on top of it, and then you were a quarter of a mile, then you were half a mile. But... you could sort of cheat on it.
But some fellas always got caught - they were giving a false position.
What would happen?
You'd go for a Board of Complaints thing. And they could've been told off. Or let off. Or whatever.
Wow, so it's like a manual Uber, isn't it? They'd put out a call - pick up from Agar Grove. And, so the open call is to just see who's there.
Yeah, I can't remember it all...
So you'd go: "Apple 3-1, I'm in..."
St. Paul's Crescent.
Yeah.
And the nearest driver got the job.
But some people had only just come out to do a bit of [work]. So if they'd call like, Agar Grove to Kings Cross - it's a short ride - a lot of people didn't want to do it.
I used to love doing it. The smaller ones.
'Cos there'd be like a minimum [fare] on the clock already?
Yeah.
How did you know what to say, did they train you? Was there like a protocol with what you're supposed to say?
Yes. Well, you'd just say Apple 31. Then the dispatcher used to come back to you and say like "where are you?" And you'd give your position. Then someone else would come in and they'd give their position.
And you couldn't hear what they were saying anyway.
No. And he just repeated it - what the other fella had said.
Did you get to know the dispatchers over time?
Not really.
Or recognise them?
Oh you do, but you never sort of met them. [You] just plodded along.
And they were based in Pentonville Road?
The first, Pentonville Road, and then they moved to Maida Vale.
Right. Yeah, because it was - the circuit was called "Lords" but the, not the company, the... organisation was the Owner Driver Taxi...
ODRTS. The Owner Drivers Radio Taxi Service.
It's a bit of a mouthful.
And then that became "Dial-A-Cab"?
Dial A Cab, that's it.
And what did "Mountview" become? Were they, did they...?
They became Radio Taxis.
And then, what, "ComputaCab" came along?
Yeah, 'cuz there was so much work, we couldn't cover it.
So then a third circuit came up?
Yes
And then THEY couldn't cover it!
So then a fourth one!
Yeah [Laughter].
And then... none of them! Now they're starting to fold back down again.
Yes. They're joining up. But it's modern technology, I mean if we'd all been one circuit, you just couldn't cover the work.
Yeah.
It's technology that's changed the job.
I mean instead of asking where Apple 31 is, they know where it is because of the - what do they call it - GPS.
Yeah and then the other thing with the radio was that you had the big button that you'd press...
Yes.
There was there was, erm, there was a secret button wasn't there, like an emergency button?
That's right. I think over the years. I can only remember one incident where one of our cabs... some car wouldn't let him out of a mews, so he's pressed the button and then all the other cabs go round.
Right, so then in an emergency you'd press this button and it would cut out all the radios, so you could only hear this one taxi? It was like an all-points emergency.
I think, no, what the fella said, he'd press the button and they just say "Right, we've got an emergency, shut your-- all be quiet" and then he could hear what he was saying.
Right, and then the idea was that everyone could go down there to help him.
Yes.
But like you said, that only happened once in like 30 years?!
Yeah, I could only [remember once].
Well [on] the hours that I worked.
But then there was that thing in the 80's, which was that... someone was pressing this button. And basically you had your cab fitted with like detection equipment, it was like er... meter that could measure the strength [of the signal] and you were... they were called "Rat Catchers"?
Secret Squirrels.
[Laughter]
I had "Rat Catcher" in my head. Okay.
And then what was that about?
Well some fella's got the hump to the circuit. And instead of getting it ripped out, they would just sit in, and press that button and... just sing. Or make a noise.
They just had the hump to the circuit. Well, it just sort of shows the mentality of some people.
And we used a London Underground map. You'd find it's A-B-C-D-E-F-G and there was about 4 or 5 of us, and when we were working... if they said the noise is coming from [nearby we'd mark it down]...
Oh, a fella fitted his cab up - so that he could hear the other drivers and they could tell which area [the noise came from].
You had a screen, like a meter, in your cab. And if someone else was misusing/abusing [the radio] your meter would come up.
Yeah, it would measure the signal strength, and then they'd try and hone it down [to where the noise was coming from]. Did they ever catch him?
No, because I joined when there's more than one.
Then when people started to realise that they're gonna get caught - so they didn't do it so much
Here's the second part of the video I shot with my Dad about becoming a London black taxi driver in the 1960's...
Partly for posterity, part legacy, part oral history, part for my kids and family and part stark reminder of my own career mortality.
It felt great finally sitting down with a camera and hearing about things I'd never asked him about:
Hating having to learn the suburbs,
What happens when you finally get the Green Badge after 18 months,
How do you get a London taxi in the 1960s "on the flat"
Getting the meters changed with fares and "bingo cards"
The dreaded annual Overhaul where your cab can fail for anything
How the taxi radio circuits started in Kings Cross
And what was his hubcap syndicate all about?
(feel free to turn the speed up and whack the subtitles on...)
Out now as a book! As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
TRANSCRIPT:
So you started the knowledge and then you had some appearances at 28 days?
Yes.
And then you got the points that you needed to bring it down to what every 14 days?
Yes and usually had two appearances of that and what did they do - once you've passed that, they give you your “rec”.
But then you do the suburbs afterwards?
Yes and a couple of appearances, you know, can't think of it, I hated it...
Like Camden Town going to Barnet or something like that
Yeah. And you had to know all the street names in...
Well roughly yeah, it was a lot big big names you know like Marble Arch to Edgware - well
that was Edgware Road - and then about two other roads and then that was it, you were there.
And you used to call them rhubarbs - or did I imagine that?
No, that's what they call the Hampstead Garden Suburbs.
Hampstead - Garden - Suburb but they used to call that rhubarbs.
But then what happened was it was there one appearance where you knew it was the last one or did they just suddenly turn around and say you've done it
Yes.
So you knew there'd be like one more.
And you knew you'd done it.
And if you blew that one you know there'd be another one - you'd come back in a fortnight's time
Then what happens do they just give you like a piece of paper then, or...
I think you've got to pay half a crown for your badge or something um pay for the postage for them to send it to you!
And that's when you get the green badge?
Yes.
No but I've lost - I lost two of them My first one was 12857 that's the one they gave me.
You can still remember it?
Yeah.
Well it's just such an ordeal you go through.
You'd see some fellas when you first went there, they've got nice suits on nice polished shoes... but after 18 months your suit was polished at the elbows you could see your shoes worn down and the frayed shirt.
Cos you've got no money
So you had to dress up for the appearance and--
You still do.
If you lost it ever you got to go to a police station and fill out a form.
And then they gave you another sort of form just in case you got stopped by the police
And then once you, once you got your green badge how, how does the taxi work, back then, did you have to buy it rent it or?
It was called “on the flat" and you had it for a week
I can't remember how much, about 13 pound for the week and you put your own diesel in or you could have it on what they call "on the clock" on those meters that you do a percentage you know you give the owner 70% no, 60% you kept 40% and all your tips but usually the cab went out again on the end of the day or end of the night when you finished.
Either you call half on the flat, you could share it with somebody but that more or less everybody went on the on the full flat - why they call it that I don't know - then you could keep it, use it as your own - for your own use as well which is quite handy yeah and --
where was that in town somewhere?
Yeah it was off of West End Lane - in a garage there.
It's 2 houses now!
Yeah, a luxury block.
But back then it was mechanical meters?
Yeah yeah, and when they put fares up they'd have to - you'd have to drive in wouldn't you - you'd have to physically...
And have a new meter and sometimes you had to wait for the cab to go to Overhaul because they just couldn't alter all these mechanical meters at once.
Yeah, there used to be like a...
I remember there used to be like a thing in the back that explained the fares, but there was another thing for when the fares went up that would convert what's on the meter with the new...
Oh yeah we used to call them bingo cards And they'd cause more ructions than anything!
People-- Because you'd have to explain that the fare on the meter isn't-
Yes because it's on this big place here...
and the more intelligent the people were less ones that they couldn't work it out
yeah yeah funny.
yeah that was the other thing that I remembered the the Overhauls - they sounded just as stressful as the as the knowledge - because every year it's not like an MOT, it's like a proper they go through everything don't they - on the taxi.
Yes, you've got to have it steam cleaned... first... and then just everything needed doing
because they could fail you on silly stuff?
Yeah, if the cigarette thing was full up.
Another thing I used to get in a state with with your Mum - the state I used to get in because it meant you know if your cab had failed, it'd mean another couple of days off of work.
Sometimes a good thing sometimes it's a bad thing
yeah I thought it was a good thing because it's a bit like your body if something's not slightly right you let it go it gets worse and worse.
I remember you had the hubcaps - you had a hubcap syndicate
[LAUGH] where you was it you and three mates each owned a brand new hubcap so when one of you went for overhaul...
yeah we have those had yeah we put all the new hubcaps on it looked nice
One garage at the end of the street - a taxi fleet - he had bumpers - overhaul bumpers - he used to take the bumpers off the taxi and put these new ones on, and take it up - when it came back, he'd put the old bumpers on again.
So you were on the flat for a bit - which is like renting a taxi and then what stage could you buy one?
Well it was - when I'd got the money.
Mine was about nine months - the things they had on the flat in those days, they were just clapped out - it was horrible to drive - and you know if you take it in the garage, and get it back for a service - the steering wheel used to be all greasy... the seats used to - the driver seat used to be greasy...
But with your own one you know you take a bit of pride in it
So how did that feel when you got your first cab then?
Petrified.
Again because you'd just laid out £1250 and you're driving around and -- but after a week, you was whizzing around like anything
Where'd you get them from - was there like one place that you'd get them from?
Yes - off the Wandsworth Bridge Road.
There was a garage there.
It was only place you could get them yeah
I found, I had a manual to start with and then the gearbox was so hard - you needed to have a divers boot on to change gear.
Get it in gear - 'course they had the monopoly, they couldn't care less!
And was that LUU52P?
No, it was AGP343G.
And what model was it?
What were they called back then?
FX4.
An FX4?
Yes.
And then when when you passed - how did the radio circuits work?
Because could you drive a cab without being on a circuit.
Oh yes.
When I first started, that was you know a self-indulgence.
You know, if you wanted to be, but I wanted to be on the radio because people you know the minicabs were coming in, and people wanted to pick you up on your door - they didn't want to stand in the street in the rain and- women complaining about their hair...
And you had - so you had - what 4 radio circuits in London there was Lords...
No, there was two.
Oh two?
To start with.
When I was there.
It was just 2 people who had a row with each other, on one circuit and one went one way and the other went the other way...
So there was just one radio circuit?
Yes, it started at Levy's you know that big garage at the end of York Way (N1) it was started there.
Which end of York Way?
As you're just coming from Kings- Euston Road on the right there's a big big place there
I mean yeah I used to call it dieseling up, you know every two
nights you know fill up with diesel I remember, it's like a courtyard it's now
all shops and coffee shops
yeah yeah but it used to be like this cobbled mews,
and you'd go in to get your DERV... your diesel... and you'd give the fella who filled it up
a couple of bob and he checked your water and your battery
But they had a radio circuit there - you know a radio--
Yes.
Because he had some premises there where you went downstairs, and I think this fella Levy
had been to America and seen it and tried to start it up at... there.
But then someone else - I can't remember names of the fellas - took it over and moved up Pentonville Road and started it there.
So then and was that going before you became a driver you know there was already a radio
circuit yeah yeah
and then so then they split yes
but before your time yeah
and one was called Mountview and one was called Lords
Yes - that's because that was the phone number right that's the name of the exchange, in
London yeah
So where was Mountview based?
Right at the top of Highgate Hill in one of those flats there.
And Lords was in Pentonville Road.
Right, so when you phone up for a cab you'd either phone that number or your number - Lords
- and and then so then when did you join Lords?
My Dad’s a London taxi driver.
A cabbie.
Licensed Owner/Driver of a black taxi.
That’s silver.
Except he’s stopped driving now.
Taxi drivers don’t retire.
They just stop driving.
And hand in their precious Green Badge.
You don’t get a leaving gift and goodbye card, even after serving Londoners for over 50 years.
But he pounded the streets of London for money.
And I knew it was hard getting that licence, that Green Badge.
When he stopped driving, I suddenly realised that I had no idea how hard exactly.
Or how he got there.
Or why.
And I’ve got kids.
I know they will ask me about him or look him up in the future.
So this Summer, I set up a camera and we had a chat.
I know there are questions in here I’ll kick myself for not asking, or answers where I didn’t follow up...
But this is what he did tell me:
What it was like to pass "The Knowledge" - the toughest road test in the world: to memorise every street, building and place of interest in London; Getting the Green Badge; Hiring and buying a London black taxi cab; How London's licensed taxi radio circuits worked and how to join them; plus the tricky odd and weird customers he's faced over the years.
And I put it all in this book. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.:
And maybe now it’s in print, I’ll end up thinking of some other questions to ask him...
Here's the full transcript:
okay Shall I sit down here?
[KEYS LANDING] Ooop, missed.
Crystals?
So yeah, if you're able to... talk about viagra?
No.
[LAUGHTER] Good evening and expenses, if you can put this on?
What do I do?
That - good isn't it.
How did it do that?
Looks like you sneezed down yourself.
Erm, yes so erm, I thought cuz cuz my kids are gonna ask me all these questions about you as a taxi driver in the 60s I won't be able to answer any of it because I'll probably have alzheimers myself and er... but it's just sort of stuff that I didn't know about you know what it was like becoming a London taxi driver in the in the 60s so all I know is that you would you were driving already
yes
because you were a you drove for a film company - the Italian -
What it was, we'd drive like an 8 seater - no 12 seater van - or a Volkswagen, you could open that you know open the sides up and you could put all the sound gear for whatever all the camera gear there and you know these film companies just hire stuff out almost pointless them buying a van or something like Italian television coming over here and just hire for three or four days
Then you were at a unit driver yeah for other film companies
yeah and we used to move Movieolas or something like that to drive down Dean Street pick these things up and deliver to companies all over London But something that was ideal because some days you were sort of lean, you didn't have any work so it could take your moped and go and see all points to set rules of London
That's when you're doing the knowledge?
That's doing the knowledge yes and its very very helpful because you doing usually doing
deliveries all over London that you certainly started to know your way around you didn't know the names of the roads but once you're doing the knowledge you could sort of pick the names up and you could picture yourself going along it was only eighteen months
so when you were...
you were driving already and then you you got the idea to get a taxi license
yes because I was always skint and I never had any money and I think for two Christmases you know you just didn't have any money in your pocket, and it was horrible feeling so you think well if I had a taxi license at least I can go to work and earn some money and it'd keep me out of the pub!
And when - do you remember what year this was roughly?
yes it was about the third or fourth of January 1967 I went along to the Carriage Office and
signed up and you get a pep talk and the fella says ninety percent of you will fall out of it.
I think he was right
And you - so you like sign up, and then do they do they give you a book
Yes, it's called a Blue Book which is white and had about 300 different runs that you do like Manor House Station to Thornberry Square, and you just got to... well you just do it's easy way of doing it
And in the book do they list all of the streets and basically you've got a look up all of the places of interest hospitals, police stations, anything that's of interest to London.
And erm, how long, can you remember roughly how long they give you to your first... because your interviews called Appearances
yes
Do you remember how long it was to your first appearance
yeah in those days it because they were short of drive cab drivers it was 28 days Right...
I think nowadays is 56 days or even longer than that and then they didn't really nobody knew how it worked, but this all worked out if you did a run more or less spot on you got two points if you coughed it and spluttered your way through you go one point I think when you got 18 points or 20 points they put you down to fortnights.
Right 22 points overall or 20 points in one appearance?
No more or less I don't think they would let you do it in less than 18 months
Oh, right so on each appearance could they ask you anything from the 300
Anything.
[LAUGH] And anything.
My favourite one was they asked you for the Institute of meat to the Institute of Management and it just fascinated me this one it was - the Institute of Meat was in Bristol House and you used to have to get your bike, and look at all the names in there.
And the Institute of Management used to be behind Holborn police station
it's just a short run but I did it just fascinated me the er...
It's 50 years on and you still remember that that's why I don't get-- whenever you say - you - because you don't talk much about the famous people you've been in the cab, but whenever you do so like ABBA in the 70s you remember the run that you know
It's just strange these things stick in your mind
What were the appearances like? What were they-
Terrifying
Yeah cuz Mum said you used to be like really like properly ill.
oh yeah I couldn't drink a cup of tea but if my...
If I was having a cup of tea before I went up there I used to throw it up.
And what would calm me was I would walk down from Harmood Street to the Carriage Office up the Angel and often that helped, but everybody was all the same there was all sitting there, petrified I don't know why - it's a form of stage fright I suppose, because you know -- you don't know what they're going to ask you and if you're doing it part-time and you need the money, you just want to pass out.
Actually if you get there and sit down and you just want to say no no no no I don't know it I don't know it and get out.
But they were there to test your temperament you know one fellow if you went in there Mr. Findlay and you had to stand there and wait till he told you to sit down - if you sit down he wouldn't mark you, you'd have to come back in a month's time.
No - so they could bump you out that quickly!
Oh yeah!
But it was all designed to wind you up.
Yes.
You couldn't call what was it, the QV the Queen Victoria Memorial outside Buckingham Palace - it's nickname was was the wedding cake - but no way would you be allowed to call it a wedding cake.
Or the other story was even if you get to Tower Bridge and the fella said "keep on" well the fella said that Tower Bridge is up, and of course that didn't go down very well.
Did they do it to you?
Er no. Or you just heard about it.
Oh yes.
I was so petrified...
I think I'd be frightened to--
Yeah, and when you were learning the the knowledge were you on a moped or a bike?
A moped with no crash helmet.
Like a Delboy cheesecutter (hat) you had on, it was part of the uniform. And what like a clipboard on the front?
Yes.
And would you write the stuff out before you went out or would you like tear pages out of the book?
No no you just write - usually if there was four runs you could stomach that - or get it in your head - if you went any more than that it was too much and the run was more or less all the roads you went through I mean I like a fella finished the knowledge and he gave me all all the runs.
And then some you could easy top of your head some on you stumbled and some you couldn't remember at all mine was all over South London - and I had like three piles - the easy ones - not so easy ones and the hard ones and you used to call it over with you girlfriend - I used to call it over with Vera, my wife.
So then - what you've have them written out
Yes each road. And if like I don't know is this how you used to say it - "Forward down Agar Grove, left into York Way..." yeah and like "comply roundabout"
yeah, "leave by..." I think so long as you knew which way you were going I think they fell asleep
I went through every show he appeared in and managed to get in his first British TV appearance on Lulu, Ronnie Corbett, Peter Powell, Sing A Song of Emu, Michael Aspel on Ask Aspel, Larry Grayson and the Generation Game, the dogs and presenters Lesley Judd, John Noakes, Peter Purves and Shep, EBC 1 (Emu's Broadcasting Company, Ahhhh!) and Norman Wisdom. I added some more clips which weren't used at 0:58.
